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TEW 05: End of the Golden Era – 1993 Author: Tom Patrick [CENTER] With thanks to: •Lundm for his fantastic work on both TV Networks and Other TV shows. •BiggN for use of his BAM Angle/Storyline modification. •Big thanks to the workers on T-Zone and RaveX, whose stats I modified for the Japanese section. •TNAFAN for his locations file, which is just superb. •Matt Welsh Boi for hosting the scenario so that others can use it. •To Eric Baker for his fantastic Death of the Territories scenario that inspired me to create this.

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•Finally, huge thanks to the community on www.greydogsoftware.com/forum for their continued support and untold numbers of photos. A few WCW thoughts: Tex Slazenger is listed as a face.

He should be a heel. As I mentioned, unless you count them winning the titles at the tapings, then the Blondes should still be Tag champions. Also, by that logic, Paul Orndorff is still Television champion. Announcers are wrong for events. It should be Tony Schiavone and Jesse Ventura. Even in WWF, I *think* it should be Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, and Randy Savage. That was Mania in 93, anyways.

Paul Orndorff seems INSANELY over. Not that it's a bad thing, mind you, but should he really be nearing the main event? Nick Patrick is not in the database. I'm not sure if Mike Tenay was in WCW at that time, but I could be wrong, so I'll file it and see if someone corrects me.

I don't know if Ted Turner ever appeared outside of very random appearances, so perhaps he should be under backstage worker instead of authority figure? If I run across any more, I'll let you know. Oh, and if you would like more teams, here are ones that I added. I know there are plenty more that could be in as well, but these are just the ones that I thought of while I was at it. Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard - The Brainbusters. Inactive, Good.

Arn Anderson and Bobby Eaton. Inactive, Good, 1992. Arn Anderson and Larry Zbyszko - The Enforcers. Inactive, Good, 1991. Barry Windham and Dustin Rhodes. Inactive, Medium, 1992.

Blackjack Mulligan and Jack Lanza - The Blackjacks. Inactive, Good. Bret Hart and Jim Neidhart - The Hart Foundation.

Inactive, Maximum, 1986. Brian Pillman and Barry Windham. Inactive, Low, 1992.

(Teamed briefly after both turned heel.) Butch Reed and The Barbarian. Inactive, Low, 1992. (Teamed briefly around Halloween Havoc.) Curt Hennig and Scott Hall. Inactive, Low. Dan Spivey and The Undertaker - The Skyscrapers II.

Inactive, Medium. Dustin Rhodes and Ricky Steamboat. Inactive, Medium. Dustin Rhodes and Dusty Rhodes - The Rhodes Family. Inactive, Good.

Ric Flair and Arn Anderson - The Four Horsemen. Semi-Active, Good. Greg Valentine and Ed Leslie - The Dream Team. Inactive, Good. Greg Valentine and Honky Tonk Man - Rhythym 'n Blues. Inactive, Good. Hercules Hernandez and Paul Roma - Power and Glory.

Inactive, Medium. Hulk Hogan and Ed Leslie - The MegaManiacs. Inactive, Medium, 1989.

Jack Brisco and Gerald Brisco - The Brisco Brothers. Inactive, Maximum. Jacques Rougeau Jr. And Raymond Rougeau - The Fabulous Rougeau Brothers.

Inactive, Maximum. Jerry Lynn and Sean Waltman - Lynn and The Kid. Inactive, Good. Jim Powers and Paul Roma - The Young Stallions.

Inactive, Medium. Kevin Sullivan and Mike Rotundo - The Varsity Club II. Inactive, Medium. Mike Rotundo and Rick Steiner - The Varsity Club. Inactive, Good. Kevin Sullivan and Rick Steiner - The Varsity Club III. Inactive, Low.

Mike Rotundo and Steve Williams - The Varsity Club IV. Inactive, Medium. Kevin Sullivan and Steve Williams - The Varsity Club V.

Inactive, Low. Ray Traylor and One Man Gang - Twin Towers. Inactive, Good. Ric Flair and Curt Hennig.

Inactive, Medium. Ric Flair and Sting. Inactive, Low.

Rick Martel and Tom Zenk - The Can-Am Connection. Inactive, Medium. Rick Rude and Steve Austin. Inactive, Medium, 1992.

Ricky Steamboat and Shane Douglas. Inactive, Medium, 1992. Scott Hall and Kevin Nash - The Diamond Exchange. Inactive, Medium. (I may have this one wrong, if so then please let me know.) Sid Vicious and Dan Spivey - The Skyscrapers. Inactive, Good. Sid Vicious and Vader - The Masters of the Powerbomb.

Semi-Active, Medium, 1993. Sting and Davey Boy Smith - Allied Powers.

Semi-Active, Medium, 1993. Sting and Lex Luger.

Inactive, Good. Terry Funk and Dory Funk Jr. Inactive, Maximum.

The Barbarian and The Warlord - Powers of Pain. Inactive, Maximum. Uliuli Fifita and The Barbarian - Haku and Barbarian. Inactive, Medium.

Looks good, I'm going to download it and play it in a few. I have one major complaint though. All Japan should never be considered a Sports Entertainment fed. Especially in 93 when they were all about 60 minute classics. I have some Tv from that era and while there are segments (mainly press conferences and the wrestlers training for matches) there's no way that the fans based their approval on anything other than the wrestling matches themselves.

Whereas in a Sports Entertainment fed - the fans don't care about the wrestling much. I'd lean towards making them a Pure fed myself. Looks good, I'm going to download it and play it in a few. I have one major complaint though. All Japan should never be considered a Sports Entertainment fed. Especially in 93 when they were all about 60 minute classics.

I have some Tv from that era and while there are segments (mainly press conferences and the wrestlers training for matches) there's no way that the fans based their approval on anything other than the wrestling matches themselves. Whereas in a Sports Entertainment fed - the fans don't care about the wrestling much. I'd lean towards making them a Pure fed myself. Yeah, AJPW was a pure fed forever until maybe the last year or so. Looks good, I'm going to download it and play it in a few. I have one major complaint though.

All Japan should never be considered a Sports Entertainment fed. Especially in 93 when they were all about 60 minute classics. I have some Tv from that era and while there are segments (mainly press conferences and the wrestlers training for matches) there's no way that the fans based their approval on anything other than the wrestling matches themselves. Whereas in a Sports Entertainment fed - the fans don't care about the wrestling much. I'd lean towards making them a Pure fed myself.

That hit me like a lead ball seeing it as a Sports-Entertainment fed. All Japan, especially at this point in time, was all about the in-ring product. The early-mid, and even late 90's, All Japan was the purest wrestling promotion in the world, outside the worked-shoot promotions (UWF-i, RINGS, Fujiwara-gumi). CMPUNK, the data will be up soon, as a mentioned earlier there is a problem with the stupid-ass site I was using, so I've gone back to pestering Mattitude, he's my hero. Again thanks buddy. -Have added all above tag teams mentioned as well as Nick Patrick.

-AJPW is now a pure fed. -The Hollywood Blondes are now WCW tag champs. -Orndorff overness brought into line and he is TV champ.

-Added Bobby Clancy to BCW. -Modified The Road warriors (Both can now successfully have power and paint gimmick + Animal now available to hire). -Sabu's acting has increased to open a variety of gimmicks to him (Psycho, Show Stealer etc). I need more suggestions on how to improve it, lists of tag teams missing, anymore relationships missing? Any new wrestlers to be included?

Wasn't the reason for the name change because it became more of a best of the 90's ala D.O.T.T is for 80's? So haveing these guys in fits with what the mod is aiming at (unless I read posts wrong and you are going for a completely accurate 1993).

I say leave them in, maybe in the wrestler info box put their debut date. So if people don't want them they can delete them, or import them into another database for storage themselves. Saves you from making several databases for debuting wrestlers but allows those that don't want them to get rid of them.

How many guys are there in the mod that hadn't debuted yet? Can't be all that many. Overall a good job! A few suggestions: Setting starting moe for more of the workers might be a good idea. I would hate to start a game with a big time worker like Bret Hart or someone like that with an F in gimmick moe.

Next maybe rework your rating system a bit in terms of both stamina but more importantly mat wrestling and all those ratings. I think those ratings need to be at least decent in order for a worker to be able to even 'stay on his feet' in the ring. Add more stables. Leave in the younger workers. Let people develop them into big stars or just let them rot in free agency. Add more networks, PPV carriers, TV shows, etc. Minor adjusting to worker overness levels.

For example I believe that Vince McMahon is only like 25% over which certainly is too low. But that is a minor issue. Look forward to the next update! Thanks for the feedback jadams1169. 'Setting starting moe for more of the workers might be a good idea.'

Is it momentum an gimmick? If so all appropriate ratings were given to top-level stars.

For instance Bret Hart B+ gimmick, and D for momentum, which I believe is accurate. But will look into smaller stars to. 'maybe rework your rating system a bit in terms of both stamina but more importantly mat wrestling and all those ratings. I think those ratings need to be at least decent in order for a worker to be able to even 'stay on his feet' in the ring.' I completely disagree with this I'm afraid. If you take 0 to be what the average person has and then work upwards, I think the stats are resonable. I know certain wrestlers can't last too long in a match, but the fact is many of them cant.

Although I will of course have a looksie for you. 'Add more stables.' I agree with you here, it is lacking in stables, but fact is I can't find many details of stables around at the time. If anyone knows of any, please list them and they will be added, bearing in mind tag teams + manager does not count as a stable! 'Leave in the younger workers.

Let people develop them into big stars or just let them rot in free agency.' 'Add more networks, PPV carriers, TV shows, etc.' Sounds good, which ones in particular are missing? I don't want too many, otherwise it would be too easy.:) 'Minor adjusting to worker overness levels. For example I believe that Vince McMahon is only like 25% over which certainly is too low. But that is a minor issue.'

Again, the overness' were set to represent the incredibly poor shape the US industry was in at the time. If WWF only have 70% overness, it seems unreasonable that many superstars would be 70% over. Therefore they are ranked downward accordingly.

Remember overness is not just how well they are known, it is how popular/hated they are by the fans. So, Undertaker both well known and incredibly popular within the current state of the business = 80% (roughly) overness. Great feedback though, keep it coming guys, I need a broard spectrum of opinions. Here are a bunch of relationships to add.

I'm not totally sure on all of them, but they add to it pretty well anyways. Bobby Eaton strong friendship with Jim Cornette Bobby Eaton strong friendship with Ricky Morton Bobby Eaton strong friendship with Robert Gibson Bobby Eaton strong friendship with Stan Lane Brian Pillman strong friendship with Bret Hart Brian Pillman strong friendship with Owen Hart Brian Pillman strong friendship with Mick Foley Steve Austin protege of Chris Adams Chris Benoit strong friendship with Bret Hart Chris Benoit strong friendship with Owen Hart Chris Benoit protege of Stu Hart Adam Copeland strong friendship with Rhino Adam Copeland strong friendship with Joe E. Legend Christian strong friendship with Rhino Christian strong friendship with Joe E. 'Hulk Hogan blood relative of Mike Awesome' This is not true. Horace Hogan is related to Mike Awesome, but Terry isn't related to Mike. I've heard this rumor before, and it's been said that it's not true. Also, in 93' Mick Foley would have disliked Ric Flair I'm pretty certain.

That was during the time that Ric was running the shots behind the scenes, haven't played the newly updated version of the mod yet - so don't know if that is in there. Ric told Mick that he'd never amount to anything. 'Chris Benoit protege of Bret Hart' I'm also not so sure if -this- is true. I'd say Benoit is more the protege of Dynamite Kid, Tom Billington - who wasn't in the scenerio last I checked, and Stu Hart. I also have to mention that this scenerio is simply amazing work. Like the 1983 scenerio, the 1993 scenerio is easily one of the best I've played for TEW. Mostly because I'm a sucker for this particular time period.

Hey man, was just looking over the data and you seem to be awfully generous to some of the modern stars who were mere prospects back in 93. Guys like Lance Storm and Sean Morley, while clearly talented performers in 2005, should not be the equals of long time veterans like Austin Idol and The Honky Tonk Man when the scenario opens. The potential to get to such heights should be. But that potential should require building. I have the exact opposite view in that alot of people (epecially in pre-internet days) are arrogant to how good some guys were.

Lance Storm was money out of the Dungeon, and the only reason most people didnt know is because the internet wasnt around to boast about him. Look at today, people who are 22 and younger are rated higher then top stars (rightfully and wrongfully) because they are exposed more. I've seen alot of Canadian stuff from early (maybe more 95 then 93) from Storm, Jericho, and such, and I'd almost argue they are better then they were in 2005 (when they were past their primes. Will do relationships tonight, awesome man, keep them coming. Is Hogan really related to Awesome in the mod?

I don't even remember doing that, weird! Will amend Benoit, Mick Foley, Ric Flair etc. Nice catch there. Douglas, New Jack and Sabu will be amended, no wonder my ECW game is going so badly.:) I agree with MrCanada, regarding high stats for certain young wrestlers, at the time pretty much everyone coimng out of the dungeon was simply gifted with technical ability. Although perhaps lacking in entertainment skills.

Saw Bret Hart DVD last night, he comes across as a bit whiney, might change his stats up a bit though, perhpas increased technical ability and 'Driven' as personality. I have the exact opposite view in that alot of people (epecially in pre-internet days) are arrogant to how good some guys were. Lance Storm was money out of the Dungeon, and the only reason most people didnt know is because the internet wasnt around to boast about him. Look at today, people who are 22 and younger are rated higher then top stars (rightfully and wrongfully) because they are exposed more.

I've seen alot of Canadian stuff from early (maybe more 95 then 93) from Storm, Jericho, and such, and I'd almost argue they are better then they were in 2005 (when they were past their primes. And once again we have the Internet fueling over-simplication. Not that I don't see where you're coming from to a degree. The old Billy Joel - Keeping The Faith kinda deal. 'The good old days weren't always good and tomorrow's not as bad as it seems.' I'm not suggesting everybody that's under 25 be stripped down to E's and F's across the board. And the Lance Storm case I'm willing to concede because the mitigating factor of his Japan experience wasn't mentioned in the file.

But I'd say your point really works both ways. Were young guys somewhat underestimated pre-Internet? It's the nature of the beast for the old to underestimate the young. Especially when information on the young is limited. But at the same time, you can't tell me Internet assessments are calm, measured and unbiased. At times, it seems like every time I read wrestling boards there's some new cruiserweight being made the figurative second coming of El Santo or a new ground pounder being held up to the legendary status of a Bruiser Brody. From way too little insight pre-Net to an embarassment of riches today.

The historical happy medium on this issue probably rests somewhere around 1998. Well, I've had a brief look over the data and it shows promise. The stats weren't as inflated as I was expecting, so that was nice.

There were several areas where I disagreed with the stats you used, but that probably just comes down to a difference in perception of the workers invilved. The main issue I had was with the strong style stat. I din't know why, but it seems that every mod creater thinks that the majority of US wretlers are at least average in strong style when most of them never use that style at all.

For example, Lex Luger should not have a C in strong style. Nothing he did resembled realistic strikes and submissions. And Mable with a C- strikes me as a might ridiculous. Unless there was a portion of their careers that I'm not aware of where they worked a completley different style and never used it again, I don't see why they, or most others, have such high strong style stats. I did really like what you did with the popularity though. I hope you keep working on this. Especially creating some era specific storylines, as that would make it worth while to me to edit the data to my liking and start a game.

Few mistakes (nothing major) I've noticed. Super J pic set for Jeff Farmer (Lightning in WCW) is actually Ice who wrestles in England. Thunder pic set for Thunder in WCW is in fact the Peurto Rican who wrestles today and I don't think he was the same one in WCW. A problem I notice in alot of stat updates is Antonio Inoki's nationality. He is actually Brazilian, not Japanese and so should be set as other for nationality. Pretty much superficial stuff that is easily changed myself (and has been) but just for future releases you may want to fix them. I'm really enjoying it though right now so thanks again.

Thunder pic set for Thunder in WCW is in fact the Peurto Rican who wrestles today and I don't think he was the same one in WCW. Definitely not. Both guys were white and the first time I saw them in a mag would have been in 92 when they were doing the indy thing prior to signing with WCW. In that photo, they were both wearing blue superhero type suits like someone was trying to knock off Superman's tights by lightening them. I want to say Thunder ended up as the jobber Lorenzo or some other opener of the era. While Lightning (Farmer) of course had the Cobra and NWO Sting runs. Thunder was a bit broader a physique than Farmer in any event.

LOL well spotted, I actually knew they were the wrong pictures, but I couldn't find any colour pics of Thunder and lightning, so I put those in instead. If anyone knows where I can get a colour pic from that would be great. Thanks for the compliments and errors fleisch, will be amended by next release! Midnight Nick, I knew there was something I forgot, and good catch on noticing Jado and Gedo.

Parker will be in for next update! Gonvick, the problem I had with strong style is i actually originally entered 0 for all US workers and so had to rush through amending it so I could play, and as such may have overcompensated!:) darkfire423, I will of course amend FMW, I don't actually know much about Japanese wrestling outside Super J Cups 94/95 and Tiger Mask vs Dynamite Kid or Bret hart. If there is anything else amiss let me know. I have to say it's so gratifying to have such positive feedback, kind validates the hours of work I put in, and with any luck in a few months it might rival DOTT. In an interesting sidenote just autoclicked through 12 years of business and this is what I found: Stu Hart died, Bret jumped to WCW and has been forced to retire through injury. Austin didn't make it as a megastar.

HBK is a WWF opener with flying skills F. Main Event of wrestlemaina XX was Jacques Rougeau vs MARTY 'Fooking' Jannetty. Your 27 time WCW TV champ OLE ANDERSON.

Top 5 Most Over Workers in the World, in order: 5) Hulk Hogan (at FMW) 4) Ric Flair (WCW) 3) Chris Jericho (SMW, BCW, NJPW, FMW) 2) Davey Boy Smith (WCW) and no.1, WAIT FOR IT. THE SHOCKMASTER! I don't know if this is just me, but alot of the weights in this game seem off. Luther Reigns 'Horshu' is a Lightweight? But Benoit is a middleweight?

I was under the impression that Middleweights were generally over 220lbs and were guys like The Rock, Triple H, and Steve Austin? Mark Henry a Super Heavyweight? I can go with that, but I'd be more for him being a Large Heavyweight. Wonder if anyone else has thought the weights seem drastically off? I've already changed all the ones I caught in my game, and would be more then willing to go over what I changed and why - but if no one else feels the same way, then this is sort of pointless. .with any luck in a few months it might rival DOTT. Never going to happen.

Stu Hart died, Bret jumped to WCW and has been forced to retire through injury. Usp 34 Monograph Free. Austin didn't make it as a megastar. HBK is a WWF opener with flying skills F.

Main Event of wrestlemaina XX was Jacques Rougeau vs MARTY 'Fooking' Jannetty. Your 27 time WCW TV champ OLE ANDERSON. Top 5 Most Over Workers in the World, in order: 5) Hulk Hogan (at FMW) 4) Ric Flair (WCW) 3) Chris Jericho (SMW, BCW, NJPW, FMW) 2) Davey Boy Smith (WCW) and no.1, WAIT FOR IT. THE SHOCKMASTER! Looks like your rating system needs some work if these are the kind of results you are getting.

I'm in 1996 in me just looking at the world. WWF rose to global on the last day of 95 and now they've re-signed Bret Hart, Kevin Nash, and Yokozuna after they fired them to cut back on costs. They got a show on ABC and now they're flying up in popularity. I took over booker for them for like a month and signed Owen, attempting to give him a small push so they wouldn't let him go, but nothing happened and they fired him within a week after I left. Owen is now a mega-star in Japan and has A overness in each location in Japan. AJPW signed him to a written deal and he won the title from Hulk Hogan. Benoit is a huge star in Japan too, he's got A in each locaiton and he is a main eventer for NJPW.

He has all D's in America and never got much of a chance to break out there. Jericho is pretty big in Mexico with all B's for CMLL. Barry Windam took the gold from Flair in WCW and they're slowly building up to Global too. Yokozuna took the gold in WWF off of Bob Backlund who had a near year long reign. I booked for a small promotion (MLW) when it opened and signed Juvi and Brock who now are Loyal to me. I picked up Copeland, Christian, Helms, Shelton and basically big up and comers for the company. This looks like a great scenario man, good job.

Your best bet is just to import into the saved game or edit as you go along. So read this thread, ignore the dickhead comments and just amend the details. The new update will be out on saturday! I agree the top 5 isn't that hard to understand, in fact with the exception of Shockmaster, it seems very realistic.

The reason Shockmaster gets so much stick is the horrendous trip and fall on debut. Judging by the buildup, he was being pushed straight into the main event! While I'm on it, what exactly is your deal jadams? I have tried to accomodate different peoples views on the scenario to get a rounded gaming experience. Why exactly will mine not be as good as DOTT one day?

Another update on my spectator thing. It just turned 1998 and Undertaker signed with WCW in January of 97 when WWF let his contract expire and he held the title for half the year, the other half was controlled by Ricky Steamboat. On the other hand, Steamboat and Taker were taking on Dustin Rhodes quite frequently and he got A overness in the US. He faced Dusty Rhodes actually in the main event of one of the ppv's and in November of 97 he left the WCW and signed with WWF. His debut match he took the WWF Title from Road Warrior Hawk.

WWF let go of Bret Hart yet again. One of the small promotions I booked for early on signed Afa as the headbooker and they've become regional now. Paul Levesque is their champion with D overness in US. Steamboat is wrestler of the year and Flair is Veteran of the year. WCW held MOTY with Steamboat/Flair at Starrcade and Card Of The Year with Starrcade, but they're still at International.

I love you for making this game. I haven't played any other scenario since I DL'd this one. Yeah, I got (another) few. In Your House was non-existant in 93, and WCW only had four COTCs: January, June, August, and November. Eric Bischoff and I'm thinking The Boss should be faces rather than heels. Another person who can be added is The Equalizer, later known as Dave Sullivan. No one will probably ever use him, but he was around WCW at the time.

And we totally need a 'Falls Through the Wall' angle so we can re-enact The Shockmaster's famed debut. I love it, but where is Nailz?! Nailz is Kevin Walchoz:). FMW in 1993 Hayabusa was still wrestling as Eiji Ezaki (wasnt until he came back from Mexico in winter of 93-94 that he was working as Hayabusa Garuda - wasnt wrestling. FMW Roster in August of 1993 Masato Tanaka (Low Midcarder) Koji Nakagawa (Low Midcarder) Sambo Asako The Great Sasuke TAKA Michinoku Super Delfin Jinsei Shinzaki (Not wrestling as Ginsei Shinzaki) Gran Naniwa Ricky Fuji Terry Funk Mr. Hey man, first off, I just wanted to say you did some great work with this file. I appreciate anyone who puts in time on TEW mods.

Next are some things I noticed. First off, Eddie Gilbert's popularity needs to be tweaked much higher. Mid-60's range at least I would think. Also, I believe he worked for GWF and ECW at this point, but I could be wrong.

Also, a LOT of people are set to perform 'Good' with every type of gimmick, like Steve Austin. That's just not true.:p Also, a LOT of people have 'Normal' set for their of Attitude and Personality, like Warrior. Also extremely untrue.:p Not sure if those have been mentioned before, but I just wanted to point them out. Maybe I'm just a ****ty booker, but I also only lasted about a month as booker in WCW because one of my goals was that the promotion must not fall in size, but my workers' quality didn't seem to allow me to turn out high enough ratings to maintain. Other guys that could be added (some of them could already be in there). Toryumon is already in the game as a new promotion as Dragon Gate (I'm pretty sure Dragon Gate was in there). Brief run down of the Ultimo Dragon Gym/Toryumon/Dragon Gate history from 'From January 1999 until July 2004, the students of the Ultimo Dragon Gym competed under the banner of Toryumon Japan.

Emerging from a small indie promotion to the fastest rising wrestling organization in Japan, they became known for the exciting high flying action, with intriguing storylines and a heavy emphasis on performance. Acdsee Mac Pro 3 Keygen Music here. Due to the young male stars, a large fan base of Teen to 20 something female (and male, both straight and not) became one of it's trademarks. For it's run as Toryumon, the company was lead by it's figurehead, Ultimo Dragon, who was responsible for training 95% of the performers, and handled all the front office relations. His reputation helped give the company legitimacy in it's early days. Upon his return to the ring from his retirement, his partner Takashi Okamura began to retain more control of the day to day operations, and assumed full control upon Ultimos' departure to WWE.

Through it's 5 year run, 3 graduating classes were borne out of the training dojo. Toryumon Japan: The initial term students, that became the signature stars in the early years.

Toryumon 2000 Project (T2P): A drastic contrast from the first term, this class made use of a Hexagon (6 sided) ring, and utilized a hypnotic submission based style known as Llave. After a head to head feud with Japan, T2P was dismissed, and most of it's wrestlers joined the Japan roster. Most have left now, with only Anthony W. Mori, Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi, and the Florida Brothers remaining.

Toryumon X: Becoming known as the lost class. Considered a failure in the Japanese market, X boasted to represent the future of Japanese lucha, but due to it's lack of a true ace, and it's use of many 'mini' versions of existing Toryumon wrestlers, it never caught on.

Many of it's initial members have disappeared, but new ones have begun to debut. Naoki Tanisaki is the only member to date to graduate to Japan, while it's other members have begun to appear for other companies in Japan. This class retained the Toryumon name after the change, but held it's final show in September 2004.

Many players from this class are now starting to gain a bit of notoriety and success under new characters. So where did Dragon Gate come from? On July 5th, 2004, one day after the 5th anniversary show in Kobe World Hall, Ultimo Dragon left the company, taking along his name and his trademark influences. Reports conflict as to the exact reasoning, ranging from trademark issues with the Toryumon name, to rumours of an unmasking in the near future for Ultimo, so he was choosing to distance himself, to nastier talk. Although this was a drastic change up front, in the end this proved to be a front end change only, as the in ring product stayed the same. The titles used during the Toryumon era were all returned to their initial owners, and new belts were prepared.

The main singles title is called the 'Open the Dream Gate' (or DG) title. This was awarded to CIMA, who was the final UDG belt holder. The 6 person tag belts are called 'Open the Triangle Gate', and were rewarded to the winners of the 2004 Rey de Parejas, the Italian Connection. They also have begun to debut their own dojo graduates, the new generation of Dragon Gate. A new project called dragondoor was started in summer 2005. It is the brainchild of T2P graduate Noriaki Kawabata, with financial funding from internet giant Livedoor. It is indeed held under the Toryumon Ltd.

Banner, so you could call it the 'new Toryumon Japan' in theory. While Principle Asai does not officially seem to have anything to do with it, he is heavily involved in the ring, and his trademark booking touches are very obvious.

Dragondoor utilizes T2P and some Toryumon X talent, but also currently is populated by Principle Asais' friends. Take that for what you will. Their schedule is fairly limited, with bi-monthly shows being run out of Korakuen Hall.'

Toryumon is already in the game as a new promotion as Dragon Gate (I'm pretty sure Dragon Gate was in there). Brief run down of the Ultimo Dragon Gym/Toryumon/Dragon Gate history from 'From January 1999 until July 2004, the students of the Ultimo Dragon Gym competed under the banner of Toryumon Japan. Emerging from a small indie promotion to the fastest rising wrestling organization in Japan, they became known for the exciting high flying action, with intriguing storylines and a heavy emphasis on performance. Due to the young male stars, a large fan base of Teen to 20 something female (and male, both straight and not) became one of it's trademarks. For it's run as Toryumon, the company was lead by it's figurehead, Ultimo Dragon, who was responsible for training 95% of the performers, and handled all the front office relations. His reputation helped give the company legitimacy in it's early days. Upon his return to the ring from his retirement, his partner Takashi Okamura began to retain more control of the day to day operations, and assumed full control upon Ultimos' departure to WWE.

Through it's 5 year run, 3 graduating classes were borne out of the training dojo. Toryumon Japan: The initial term students, that became the signature stars in the early years. Toryumon 2000 Project (T2P): A drastic contrast from the first term, this class made use of a Hexagon (6 sided) ring, and utilized a hypnotic submission based style known as Llave. After a head to head feud with Japan, T2P was dismissed, and most of it's wrestlers joined the Japan roster. Most have left now, with only Anthony W. Mori, Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi, and the Florida Brothers remaining.

Toryumon X: Becoming known as the lost class. Considered a failure in the Japanese market, X boasted to represent the future of Japanese lucha, but due to it's lack of a true ace, and it's use of many 'mini' versions of existing Toryumon wrestlers, it never caught on. Many of it's initial members have disappeared, but new ones have begun to debut. Naoki Tanisaki is the only member to date to graduate to Japan, while it's other members have begun to appear for other companies in Japan.

This class retained the Toryumon name after the change, but held it's final show in September 2004. Many players from this class are now starting to gain a bit of notoriety and success under new characters. So where did Dragon Gate come from? On July 5th, 2004, one day after the 5th anniversary show in Kobe World Hall, Ultimo Dragon left the company, taking along his name and his trademark influences. Reports conflict as to the exact reasoning, ranging from trademark issues with the Toryumon name, to rumours of an unmasking in the near future for Ultimo, so he was choosing to distance himself, to nastier talk. Although this was a drastic change up front, in the end this proved to be a front end change only, as the in ring product stayed the same. The titles used during the Toryumon era were all returned to their initial owners, and new belts were prepared.

The main singles title is called the 'Open the Dream Gate' (or DG) title. This was awarded to CIMA, who was the final UDG belt holder. The 6 person tag belts are called 'Open the Triangle Gate', and were rewarded to the winners of the 2004 Rey de Parejas, the Italian Connection. They also have begun to debut their own dojo graduates, the new generation of Dragon Gate. A new project called dragondoor was started in summer 2005. It is the brainchild of T2P graduate Noriaki Kawabata, with financial funding from internet giant Livedoor.

It is indeed held under the Toryumon Ltd. Banner, so you could call it the 'new Toryumon Japan' in theory. While Principle Asai does not officially seem to have anything to do with it, he is heavily involved in the ring, and his trademark booking touches are very obvious.

Dragondoor utilizes T2P and some Toryumon X talent, but also currently is populated by Principle Asais' friends. Take that for what you will. Their schedule is fairly limited, with bi-monthly shows being run out of Korakuen Hall.' Yea i know dragongate is in but really Toryumon should be in to for the fact that well.it was a company that opened its doors after 1993.

Other guys that could be added (some of them could already be in there). Pancrase Roster But i found out that the debut show wasnt until Step. Of 93.So you might just want to make sure that the roster is in the game and people could add it if they want.

Bas Rutten George Weingroff Joop Van Dam Katsuomi Inagaki Ken Wayne Shamrock (He didnt use just Ken Shamrock until he went to the UFC, and then in wrestling world he was known as Ken Wayne until he went to the WWF) Masakatsu Funaki Minoru Suzuki Ryushi Yanagisawa Vernon 'Tiger' White Yoshiki Takahashi Yusuke Fuke. Yea i know dragongate is in but really Toryumon should be in to for the fact that well.it was a company that opened its doors after 1993.

Yes but Dragon Gate IS Toryumon, Toryumon IS Dragon Gate. They are the same promotion. Everyone besides Ultimo and one or two other high up's stayed.

They even kept all the same contracts. They never stopped putting on shows. One show they were Toryumon the next they were Dragon Gate. So either it should be in as Dragon Gate or in as Toryumon, but not both was my point.

It's comparable to the WWF becomming the WWE, you wouldn't add WWE as a new promotion just because of the name change. I personally renamed Dragon gate to Toryumon, but that is just a personal choice. Pancrase is part MMA part Wrestling.also known as a Work Shooted. Not true, Pancrase was for the most part legit, some of the Japanese fights were worked but it was advertised as a legit shoot. You are thinking of the UWF, UWFI and RINGs(Which became a legit fight comp) Speaking of which You might want to Add UWFI they were a popular worked shoot promotion in Japan when this scenario would be happening there roster had Bad News Allen (Brown) Yoshihiro Takayama Yoji Anjoh Masahito Kakihara Kazushi Sakuraba Big Van Vader Gary Albright Kiyoshi Tamura Dan Severn Hiromitsu Kanehara Tommy Cario Dennis Koslowski (Silver medalist in 1992 olympics). Yes please InfernalMiko, take as long as you need. In other news my home computer got some crazy-ass virus last night and everytime i load up windows after about 45 seconds it clicks and reboots, which means no editing until it's sorted.

I literally have such limited time to open apps of anything before pop. WHY, why do nobs have to create virus', they are just such a pain in my ass. I tell you, if I lose every. I might just cry.

Does anyone have any suggestinos, I believe I saw the word backdoor and trojan pop up before it went down? That is terrible mate, I am no expert and but my advice is to go to and look for a free trial download for a programme like spy sweeper, run some free advert and virus programmes and hopefully you will catch whatever is giving you problems.

I have also heard VERY good things about a free programme called CCleaner which can be downloaded at, I have never used this programme myself though. I hope you get everything sorted out as easily and worry free as possible. Some updates for Maritime venues.

Mostly language. They may be off a bit, most of them are venues in New Brunswick (A couple in Nova Scotia though) which is a bi-lingual province (road signs are in French and English, etc), and most of those are in St. John's which isn't as french dominated as the rest but still alot. But most people can speak english just as well so English should stay lots for them all. Brother O'Hehir Arena - French - Some.

Feildian Gardens - French - Some. Prince of Wales Arena - French - Some. Keating Millennium Centre - French - Few. Amherst Stadium - French - Some. Dalhousie Memorial Arena - French - Few.

Antigonish Arena - French - Few. Colchester Legion Stadium - French - Few. Memorial Civic Centre - French - Some.

Field House - French - Some. Wolfville War Memorial Gym - French - Few. Aitken University Centre - French - Lots. Irving Regional Centre - French - Lots. Memorial Stadium - French - Some. Mile One Stadium - French - Some. Moncton Coliseum - French - Some.

Halifax Metro Centre - French - Few. King George V - French - Some.

And add in Halifax Forum (In Halifax, obviously) - English - Lots, French - Few. Capacity for Hockey is 5,000. Can't remember the Capacity=venue size in game off the top of my head. Quick update: Everything from above is added except the arenas which i will do tonight. But come on people, i need more workers to be added, especially Japanese/Mexico to flesh it out!

Also, i'm thinking of adding NWA-UK: Hammerlock, but i need some websites that have historical information and possibly pictures from the 1993 era, as well as Europe, any ideas? In 1993, they were still only Hammerlock Wrestling. I'm not entirely sure who was on the roster around then, may have been too early for the batch who left and formed the FWA.possible that say Mark Sloan and Alex Shane were there. As for others, obviously Drew McDonald and Robbie Brookside were wrestling whilst I believe Big Daddy had a heart attack in 1993. Add these guys: Sam Houston Pez Whatley Craig Pittman The Gambler Jim Steele Mark Starr Rip Rogers Glen Osbourne J.T.

Smith Tony Stetson Don E. Allen Jason Knight Gino Caruso Malia Hosaka Chad Austin Johnny Ace Brian Anthony Paul Atlas Tony Atlas Steve Blackman Mike Shaw Horace Boulder (Horace Hogan) Brickhouse Brown Jim Brunzell Brian B. Blair Jimmy Cicero Joanie Laurer Mike Rapada Tony DeVito Ace Darling Duke Droese Bill Dundee Adam Flash Flash Flanagan (Slash Venom) Bobby Fulton Kris Germany Ray Lloyd (Glacier) The Maestro Billy Jack Haynes Mike Lockwood (Crash Holly) Inferno Kid (Danny Inferno) Buddy Landell Metal Maniac (Frank Goodman) Jason Jett (EZ Money) Don Montoya Hack Myers Kevin Northcutt Mr. Ooh La La Alex Porteau Rod Price Ivan Putski Scott Putski Kevin Quinn Twiggy Ramirez T. Rantula Billy Reil Ron Reis Essa Rios Dan Severn Tiger Ali Singh Mark Shrader Johnny Smith Michelle Starr Gary Steele George Steele Robert Thompson Jimmy Valiant Bill Wiles (Bilvis Welsey) Wolfie D David Young All of them were either already wrestling in 1993 or debuted sometime between 1993-1995.

Many of these guys had stints as jobbers in WCW, ECW, or WWF at the time and others were top indy workers. I found more independent and international workers who debuted in the early 90s. I don't think any of them are in the scenario yet: Anthony Adonis (Anthony Michaels (Snot Dudley) (Avisman (Azteca (Brandon Bishop (Corporal Robinson (Fugaz (Hator (Homicide (Joe Rules (Tom Howard (Shane Shamrock (Vance Nevada (Veneno (Frank Iadevaia (Pablo Marquez (Bob Evans (Black Dragon (Chris Hamrick (White Wolf (Dances With Dudley) (Donnie B. Cerebro (Mosco De La Merced (Electro Shock (Frank Parker (Harry Del Rios (Jeff Jones (Karloff Lagarde Jr. (Rick Titan (http://www.cagematch.de/cgi-bin/database/english/profile.cgi?action=overview&worker=00000811). Some inof for Black Dragon (Brett Como). Also that site has some pretty good bios of Puroresu wrestlers and some in Mexico.

In case you don't have these sites already. (I'd wager a guess that you have this one already lol, but just in case) List of some tag teams - - Scroll down and on the left you have info on WWE, WCW, ECW, XPW, AJPW, NJPW, Zero-1, FMW, NOAH, AAA, CMLL, UWA, AWA, SMW, USWA, UWF, GWF, WCCW, Stampede, IWA, WWC, WWAS, XWF, MLW, ROH, WOW, Pro Wrestling Illustrated info, NWA info then tons of misc info. - Down the bottom on the left are links to it's sister sites for AJPW, NOAH, Dragon Gate, DDT and Zero One. I don't think that was quite his point though. I think his point is more to the fact that Konnan has outlived all the other guys despite not being really all that old yet. Yeah my point was that out of 5 of them only 1 of them is still kicking and not a one was that old.

Art Barr was like 28 or 29, Eddie was I think 38, Louie Spicolli was like 27 and Black Cat was 51. Black Cat was the oldest but even his death came as a surprise, hell he was even training to make an in ring return in NJPW reportedly. 5 guys 3 dead before 40, 2 of them before 30.

And when ya grew up watching them wrestle alot it all seems so unbelievable. Though that is not saying Konnan is any good these days. Basically I'm waiting for my server hoster person to get back from work, so you'll just have to be patient.:) If it's any conscolation, its awesome. I've started as WCW and my sister is WWF. I'm setting up an epic storyline where Flair wins the Title off Vader after losing his to Rude.

Then Arn turns on Roma to join Ole and they leave the horseman. Hogan comes in and beats Rude for his title. Ole and Arn target Hogan and flair comes to his defence. Flair beats Ole in a retirement match. Flair/Hogan go after the hollywood blondes, but during match Flair turns on Hogan and reforms the Horsemen (Flair/Arn/Austin/Pillman w Ole as manager) Flair fights Hogan at Starrcade to Unify titles. (Hogan Wins).

Ok please can someone help me here as this is confusing thwe **** out of me, i click the link for data, the click free, and that it says the file has already been downloaded 10 times and then under enter a 3 digit code that it shows, click that, then comes up with a upload box and a download session invalid. Note to modder, please use a decent file service to upload as you are wasting everyome's time otherwise and you made it and no one can use it, files should be easy to access, not a bloody puzzle. And yes i am pissed of, this has been hyped for ages, i have been looking to paying it, and now i can't. I explained that there would be a delay until my regular file-hoster put the new stuff up, but people didn't want to wait, so i used the site everyone suggested to use, so please lets not get personal. I understand that it sucks not to be able to play it right away, but i will look into your problem and get back to you all. Yes Dynamite is in.

Unfortunately i lost track of everything i added, it takes ages with one person, and taking extra time to write out everything i added did not seem like a fun proposition. As a rough guide, pretty much everything above has been added!

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