I don't think this one is mentioned yet on Whirlpool. Note: This opening post is updated to reflect additional information discovered by posters further on in this thread. The references are linked. At last a 4GX USB device, with no batteries, for those that like their modems basic.:) See and Telstra Prepaid 4GX Wingle: This device is locked to the Telstra network. USB Wingle CAR WIFI Wingle It is an Huawei E8372h-608, Telstra 4GX branded USB Wingle. On the box it supports: 4G 700/1800/2100/2600 3G 850/2100 So no 4G 900Mhz, 4G 850Mhz, or 3G 900Mhz, but it is an LTE FDD Cat 4 (150Mbps), DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps) device. It has two external TS9 antenna ports, as we have come to expect.

WIFI It will operate on a stand alone 5V, >750mA USB AC adapter, ie connect via WIFI alone and no PC connection is required. It appears to supports wireless 300n (2x2 MIMO). It is 2.4Ghz only. The WIFI can be disabled. Above is an inSSIDer screen shot, showing a 2.4Ghz 150n connection at 144Mbps, using a 20Mhz channel on the Wingle. If the Wingle were set to channel width 'auto' (not 20Mhz default), then I presume it will allocate a 40mhz wide channel and connect at a sync rate of 300Mhz (300n), if the device is close.

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Download the pdfs linked on that page for more information Frequency bands available in the Huawei E8372 series (according to the above Huawei pdfs). Note: I see LTE TDD 2300 is available (Optus). There's no B28 (700Mhz 4G), but a few extra goodies in the box. -o.o- Optus are floggin' it as a 'road trip companion'. The WiFi Modem is a perfect road trip companion, as it comes with an in-car adaptor that plugs straight into your car’s 12-volt power socket, so you’ll never run out of battery. When plugged into a power source, it connects up to ten WiFi devices at once including tablets, laptop computers and mobile phones, so no one misses out on the fun. Includes an in-car adaptor for WiFi in the car Includes a hinged adaptor in case you need to change the angle of the modem Connects up to 10 WiFi enabled devices at the same time Specifications: Internal Memory: Up to 128MB Expandable Memory: microSD up to 32GB 3G Network: 900/2100MHz 4G Network: 1800/2600/700/2300MHz.

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Guys, I have a (very) stupid question. Would this work on desktop PC as a stop gap measure you think? We're moving house to Kellyville in a week's time. Given that it's a new house (previously empty lot), we need to have telstra comes in and activate the phone line (eta 1 week from our move date) then call TPG to get our broadband installed (eta 5-20 working days) so at worst case scenario, I am looking at 1 month + without internet access.

Am looking at these mobile broadband so that we are not completely cut off. So would you think these USB wifi would work on a Full PC plus maybe 2-3 attached devices through wifi? Ofcourse, we need to moderate our use, given the 5gb data allocation and I am not expecting the whole house to be covered by the wifi range, but as a stop gap, it would have to suffice. I am thinking I can use it for the car later on as an onboard internet for the GPS (Mazda MDZ system). So would you think these USB wifi would work on a Full PC plus maybe 2-3 attached devices through wifi? If there's acceptable Telstra/Optus (as appropriate) signal at the PC, then yes.

There's some scope for positioning the modem a little away from the PC via a USB extension cable to get better signal. But these modems can be fussy about the quality of the USB cable where the cable is used as an ethernet connection. I haven't measured WiFi range, but it seems up there with the better WiFi modems. If there's acceptable Telstra/Optus (as appropriate) signal at the PC, then yes. I am leaning (hoping!!!) there is. I'm with Optus mobile and the few times I went to the house for inspections I always get full bar and fluctuating between 3g and 4g. I was considering plugging the thing directly to our modem/router to make things easier, but 1.

I don't know if it'll work and 2. It'll be a nightmare to moderate the traffic (got 7 people at home) and 3. Connection speed would drop to nigh unusable:p.

I got it going again! (the Telstra unit) But only for a couple of days! Under Settings >WLAN >WLAN Advanced Settings there's a tick box for Country/Region adaptation That fix has turned out to be a Furphy. It seems that when that setting was changed, the unit decided to behave for a couple of days anyway. Today, it's been sometimes working and sometimes not. That's regardless of whether I reset it to defaults or tweak various settings.

No fix has been permanent. So I'm suspecting an intermittent fault, but I can't tell if it's related to hardware or firmware being sensitive to some factor I haven't identified. I'll keep plugging away at it. Looking at purchasing one of these can anyone let me know does any decent USB Power Adapter work ie Belkin USB Power Adapter work with this device so I don't have to have the computer around all the time. I'd pick something capable of delivering at least 1A (1000 mA) of current, just to be sure. That's the rating of the cigarette lighter USB power adaptor which comes with the Optus version.

It's also the rating of the ZTE mains adaptor from my MF70 modem, which I use when powering the E8372 from a power point. And does this device once fully charged work without a computer and plugged into power to be able to use wireless. The E8372 doesn't have a battery, so it disconnects immediately USB power is removed. But cigarette lighter and mains-to-USB power adaptors are cheap and readily available.

And USB rechargeable battery packs are a portable alternative. These are often sold as power packs for charging mobile phones. Edit - beaten by WF, as usual. Lot's of fingers and toes crossed on this one.:) Alas, I was able to confirm there's no 3G 850 MHz support on the Optus variant, right here on the Gold Coast. Telstra SIM in Optus E8372h-607, set to 3G-only, gives 'no signal'.

There's a Telstra BTS not far down the road, and it clearly has no 3G 2100 MHz for the modem to use. Telstra SIM in the Telstra E8372h-608, set to 3G-only, and I have: RSCP: -92 dBm RSSI: -81 dBm That's QED I reckon. PS - another difference between the Telstra and Optus variants is that the Telstra unit appears to have no 2G support. The Optus variant does, because I was using it with the Telstra SIM installed here a few minutes ago. 2G doesn't come up as an option on the Telstra unit. Alas, I was able to confirm there's no 3G 850 MHz support on the Optus variant Which is not unexpected. 2G doesn't come up as an option on the Telstra unit.

On the box it supports: 4G 700/1800/2100/2600 3G 850/2100 So it seems Telstra is reporting it's capabilities correctly. But as we know this modem is capable of covering just about every mobile emission the planet.:) So despite what Optus says on its website. From the Optus Website it supports: 3G Network: 900/2100MHz 4G Network: 700/1800/2300/2600MHz and LTE B1 4G is available on the Optus version (yep 2100) The Optus variant does 2G – 900 and 1900?

The Optus variant is still number 1 for bands covered. But no 850Mhz 3G. Waiting for Vodafone now I'm guessing the Optus version doesn't have LTE B5 (850 Mhz) support. That's the only band which Vodafone uses but Optus doesn't. As far as I'm aware, Vodafone uses LTE B5 only on sites with LTE B3 also active. So it becomes almost impossible to test for B5 support on the 607 variant. The local tower here has both Vodafone B3 and B5 LTE.

The Optus modem with Vodafone SIM reports the LTE band in use as B3. So either Vodafone is prioritising B3 over B5 or the 607 lacks B5 capability. This makes a Vodafone variant a not-so-useful device if we've got an Optus one. Thanks for that. I'm waiting on a network extension for my home phone line to be put on so in the mean time I can buy whatever I want in terms of dongles and telstra will eventually credit my bill for whatever I spend.

I can't claim usage though. Part of me wants to buy the most expensive thing I can, but I'm also thinking get the one that comes with the most data so I am effective getting data for free. I seem to be in a bit of a hole for telstra coverage with the Internet on my phone coming and going but Optus, according to coverage maps looks strong. Cheers Glenn.

I just noticed on the Huawei website specs for the E8372, it states the external antenna connectors are TS5? An someone who does, confirm? Well I've tried TS9 in the Optus variant, and it's a very sloppy fit, so not the right one. My CRC-9 connectors won't go in, even with more force that I think should be necessary. So I've ordered more (RFI brand this time) to see if they fit when they arrive. I understand that CRC-9 connectors are correct for TS5 sockets. TS9 is correct for the Telstra variant.

Can you give me some tips on how you got this to work. I've currently got the dongle in the sub port of the NXL.

It's connected to the 4G and I can connect to it via wifi and use the Internet. When I login yo the NXL on its wifi network, the status shown for 3G is no card found. Do I need to disable the wifi on the dongle first or something? It is odd, but when I look at the USB settings in the Billion it doesn't show a card name like usual. But it definitely is connected (and at proper 4G speeds).

So I'd suggest making sure that you have the correct APN put in there and just try and connect anyway. I'm using the Telstra variant on the 7800NXL with firmware 2.32d. It shows the status as 'Up' on the 3G/LTE status page, with 10 dashes for signal strength (where it usually shows blocks for other modems). The fields for card name and card firmware are blank.

So it seems that the Billion doesn't recognise it fully, but it does pass data and work well. I've tried it with Wireless enabled and disabled on the Huawei and it works both ways. Peaking of stumped – how do you send txt messages? There is an inbox but what about writing/sending?:( Telstra Text Buddy (the old online text sending program) does still work. So I use that to send texts, and the replies can be received by the modem software.

Obviously telstra have deliberately disabled he sending function. Text Buddy hasn't been available on Telstra website for years, but its still around on 3rd party download sites like mentioned here Edit - direct link to Text Buddy download.

Up at Byron Bay atm and this modem is an ideal solution for a little problem location. Desired service is Optus 700Mhz with an external antenna.

The owners had previously 'found' Telco antennas and purchased their top shelf Mimo antenna and 2 x 15m LMR400. However their Virgin modem doesn't support 700Mhz.:( As usual, Optus 900 3G is. 'ordinary' (busy location). Footnote: I'm not overly impressed with Telco Antennas analysis of this specific site for Optus reception and the style of information provided. Have we solved the antenna pigtail for the Optus version?

Hi WF Have tested some pigtails on the Optus E8372. CRC9 is too small. TS9 to FME from telco has an outer diameter too big to go in easily. TS9 to FME (4G) from Jaycar clips in with a bit of a shove. Seems a good fit though I cant be sure it is the correct one. It works in that it makes the antenna go. I think the above is the same one, though I bought some time ago.

At least it gets a result. It always seem the rule that Optus used the smaller CRC9 but like previous posts, it just does not want to play. Did compare and measure both Telstra and Optus version of E8372 to ZTE MF91 (TS5), Huawei E173 (CRC9), Huawei E8278 (TS9) ZTE MF633 (TS9). Conclusion: 1. Although the port of Telstra one E8372 looks bigger, it's in fact the same size as Optus one in all aspect.

The difference should come from some kinds of optical illusion. The ports of E8372s are apparently bigger than ZTE MF91 and Huawei E173 and the same size as Huawei E8278 and ZTE MF633. So I think the antenna ports of E8372 is not TS5 as shown on Huawei website. It's in fact TS9.

It's also proved by - our CRC9 antennas are not fit E8372 and almost all our TS9 antennas fit both Telstra and Optus E8372. Although the port of Telstra one E8372 looks bigger, it's in fact the same size as Optus one in all aspect. The difference should come from some kinds of optical illusion. Then it's a very good illusion, which is maintained when I try to eyeball the diameters of the outer metal parts of the respective sockets against a vernier caliper. It looks like a smidgeon over 2mm on the Optus variant and a smidgeon under 3mm on the Telstra one. There's no doubt that some TS9 pigtails are a snug fit in the plastic hole for the socket.

It doesn't follow that the metal contacts are a snug fit. In fact, a vernier caliper shows that the holes in the plastic case of both units are close to 4mm - around the same as the OD of a TS9 pigtail connector. Did compare and measure both Telstra and Optus version What measurements did you come up with? Did compare and measure both Telstra and Optus version of E8372 to ZTE MF91 (TS5), Huawei E173 (CRC9), Huawei E8278 (TS9) ZTE MF633 (TS9) So I think the antenna ports of E8372 is not TS5 as shown on Huawei website. It's in fact TS9. I've come around to your view. I've tried a different brand of CRC-9 pigtail, and that one's clearly too small to fit on the Optus E8372.

I've also got another couple of TS9 pigtails, and they do seem to be a snug fit on the Optus modem. So, appearances to the contrary, I now think that both variants (Telstra and Optus) use TS9. I do however remain convinced that there's a slight difference in the dimensions.

Maybe that's no surprise given there's clearly differences in the different brands of pigtails. Ill be up perth hopefully getting a replacement sim saying for some reason the sim won't allow me to do 4g.

I activated the Telstra SIM pre-installed in mine and it won't connect to 4G (3G only). Tested USB device with another Telstra SIM and it connected to 4G without any changes to configuration. Called up Telstra and they confirmed that the SIM which was installed in the device was 3G only. They instructed me to take it back to the Telstra shop where I purchased for a free (4G) SIM replacement I wonder how many people have this device with a 3G SIM and don't even realise? I will be setting a Pro up with the Optus version this week. I'll let you know how it goes and make sure I update the pro to the latest firmware when I get it.

I'm interested to see, how you'll go. I have an Optus version and operate it with a Telstra SIM. It works fine on its own, but my Dovado GO on firmware 739 doesn't recognize it ('no modem'). So I'm still using my MF821 with the Dovado, which works fine and the Dovado has better WIFI. The HUAWEI is ok for the car as a quick plug'n play. EDIT: UPDATE: I got it to work now.

Dovado GO Settings: Modem >L.I.M. Settings >input modem's webpage username & password PLUS tick 'let router control the internet settings on your Mobile Hotspot'. So this Optus version of the E8372 works here with a Telstra SIM and Dovado GO v.7.39 on LTE B3. Just for people's info, the works in a TP-Link TL-MR3020 3G/4G Wireless N Router.

Alternatively you just switch the TL-MR3020 into Access Point mode, configure it as a client, and tell it the E8372's SSID and password. It'll listen the E8372's wifi signal and feed it into your Ethernet network. Only trick I found is that I needed to do a (ipconfig /) release and renew on the PC's on the wired LAN to pick up a new IP address in the 192.168.8.x range before they could see the internet. The only other hiccup was that initially I had the E8372 on a longish USB extension cable, and it didn't seem to be getting enough amps to connect.

Which made me realise that had been why I'd been having problems with the E3276 I was replacing. Oh well, at least now I'm ready for 4G when it arrives. I had to buy one of the Telstra wingles when my house burned down recently. I'm in a country area and the choice was limited to the Telstra 4gUSB or the Telstra wireless one at significantly more cost. It took a great deal of angst to get it set up, mainly because the operator didn't quite understand I was setting up a wingle not a phone and I was absolutely reeling from the destruction of my home (I lost everything but my laptop (in the car luckily) and phone and the clothes I was in).

It plugs in to my laptop although I did have to buy a cable to do that because if I plugged the large and wide modem directly into my laptop, the configuration with USB ports was such as to prevent anything else being used in those ports. I had to pay for 4 GB data on top of the purchase price. I get great reception but I'm almost out of data, so I was looking at swapping to another carrier.

However, I understand the telstra wingle is locked? And while Optus says they give good inside internet coverage of my area, I doubt that because some days even Telstra has issues. Can I unlock the modem? Can I unlock the modem? Telstra should be able to sell you the unlock code. You'll need to ask them how much – sometimes they're $27.50 and sometimes a lot more. They're free if you wait a year or two.

I presume the SIM got activated as a broadband (data) SIM and not as a voice service. If not, get the type of service changed on that SIM. A broadband SIM may have been activated under the old pricing scheme.

If so, get that swapped over to the new 'Data Pass' offer. On that, Telstra prepaid data prices are competitive with Optus and Vodafone. $50 data pass Weird things are happening on that offer.

Do you have a Telstra phone account as well? If so, a $1 creditMe2U from your phone to the data-pass will very likely add an extra 0.5GB to your data. (Or if you don't already have a phone account, perhaps think about getting a discounted $30 starter kit and transferring the credit from there).

You already have a 365 day expiry (less the time you've already used) so the extra data won't expire anytime soon and while this 'glitch' continues you can get Telstra data much cheaper than Virgin. Initially I had my Optus E8372 receiving 3G/4G and retransmitting it as wifi, and my TP-Link TL-MR3020 receiving that and feeding it into my Ethernet LAN.

I finally plugged it directly into my router as a direct replacement for my previous USB modem that didn't receive the right 4G bands. And I was rather surprised at the result: I could still address and access as if it was a device on the network even though it was plugged into the USB port on the router. It still had the same IP address, 192.168.8.1. I could still log into its web page. I could still configure it and turn off the unneeded wireless functionality to reduce power consumption and improve security. But here's a warning, don't turn off its DHCP server, or the router can't talk to it any longer, and you can't reconfigure it. You can only open it up and press the reset button, and start again.

Tracing route to sip.telecube.net.au [103.193.167.41] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1. What is under SIP and ALG settings? Also Firewall Also try enabling upnp I think the way it works is: Incoming IP from provider then NAT and DHCP give a LAN Ip to the router which then again uses NAT/STATIC IP LAN in your case. You also have them both on different subnets. Basically if you can turn off/bypass your NAT on the E8372h then it might help, i am thinking that the voip is having trouble negotiating its way through a double NAT? It could also be that you need to port forward some particular ports to allow it through.

I sort of understand the basics but I am a bit blind here.. Just trying to nut it out as usual. Also WF: Last 2 posts are the most interesting. Edit: Does Exetel have any system for blocking voip traffic from outside their network? Is it an option you need to turn off? Under Voip configuration see: VoIP Access from: Exetel Network Only IP Any Australian IP Any IP (International IPs) Custom IP Ranges Then part of the response: Well, knock me over with a feather.

I found aforementioned configuration page, which I have never seen before, and changed it to 'Any Australian IP'. Clicked the confirm button and backed out. I went back in to see the change and was very surprised to see 'Exetel Network Only IP' was still selected. I found that I could change any setting on that page but that one. So I got on the phone to Exetel support and eventually got someone who knew what he was talking about.

Sometime in the last couple of months, they have added this facility as a security measure. When I asked why I wasn't allowed to change this setting, he said he wasn't sure, but I would be able to change it from now on.

I asked him if this was only for my account or for all VoIP accounts, and he said Yes, everybody can change it now. When I asked him why nobody mentioned this when I rang and explained this problem the first time, he said he didn't know. I told him never mind, it was a rhetorical question. Thanks everybody who chipped in here; sooner or later somebody is going to have the same problem, so I hope they end up here for the answer. Just check the portal and. No.:( you should have a good log file in the ata somewhere what about APN. Or can it run in bridge mode perhaps if the other device's are allowing the registration then the wingle with the extra router capabilities is interfering, I doubt its port related somehow this is my registration detail.

So you could port forward the Telecube equivalent I guess. SIP Address: sip.faktortel.com.au Ports used: 5060-5067 Protocols used: TCP and UDP IAX Address: iax.faktortel.com.au Port used: 4569 Protocols used: TCP and UDP. Only if you require a LAN connection, rather than WIFI, or you'd like 'better WIFI' as mentioned above Oh I see, I actually do require one. I assumed you just plugged them into the USB slot and you were good to go for that single device.

Or is the USB connection just for power and not data transfer, and the dongle broadcasts a Wifi signal you then need to connect to? I'm in a rather unusual situation since I'm going to be using it with a desktop PC, which on it's own, obviously doesn't have the kind of Wifi capability a laptop or mobile has. Hence my uncertainty over peripherals. You should have a good log file in the ata somewhere I just realised (bad memory), that I have a swisho Linksys SPA122 to play with here; which does have a few bells and whistles.:) Yet the problem appears to be a very basic one. The SPA122 'sees no internet'; despite a LAN connection to the ROOter. This same LAN connections works just fine with the lappy.

Neither the E8372h 192.168.2.1 (which has DHCP on), nor the ROOter 192,168.1.1 (which also has DHCP on), provides an IP address to the SPA122. My lappy (LAN) and Android device (ROOter WIFI connected) are both leased to the ROOter. But not the SPA122.:( It is simply missing in action. As mentioned above. It does not appear to be a port problem. Is it a SPA 122 configuration disparity? Note: Most of this basic IP stuff will be blindingly obvious to most of you; but not to me.:~.

I probably shouldn't comment. Looks more networking issue which i only blunder thru. OK this looks like the WAN port its getting its assigned add. As it should be.

Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: WAN br0 connected Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: Link name=br0 Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: IP address=192.168.1.130 Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: Netmask=255.255.255.0 Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: Gateway=192.168.1.1 Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: hostname=SPA122 Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: domain=lan Jan 1 00:00:10 SPA122 daemon.notice system[1]: dns_0=192.168.1.1 Whats all the LAN settings. WF still think the answer is here. Whim me i can pull this down. Probably wrong anyway... This is what the E8372h help file says about the port forwarding functionality: Configuring a Special Application The Telstra 4G USB+WIFI Plus supports the function to use a special application to configure dynamic port forwarding. Certain applications in the local area network (LAN) must use a specified port of the firewall to access remote applications. To set up a Transmission Control Protocol and User Datagram Protocol (TCP/UDP) connection between an application in the LAN and a remote application, the firewall uses this port forwarding function to open the required port.

Procedure • Choose Settings >Security >Special Applications. • Click Add and set the parameters. • Click OK to save the settings. • Click Apply for the settings to take effect. NOTE: • Edit: to edit an item. • Delete: to delete an item.

Example of the Configuration of a Special Application A client in the LAN uses TCP to access the MSN game server through port 47624. When the game starts, the game server uses TCP and port 2400 to set up a connection to the client that tries to access the server. In this case, you must configure dynamic port forwarding, because the game conflicts with the following default firewall rules: • The firewall blocks external data input. • The game server can send a connection request to the external IP address of the Telstra 4G USB+WIFI Plus but cannot send the request to the LAN client that tries to access the game server, because the IP addresses of clients are not open to external devices. To solve this problem, you must define a set of port forwarding rules. When the client in the LAN sends data to TCP port 47624, the rules allow data input from TCP port 2400. Then data from the game server can be received from and transmitted to the LAN client that sends data to TCP port 47624.

Name Status Trigger Port Trigger Protocol Open Protocol Open Port MSN Gaming Zone On 47624 TCP TCP 2400 NOTE: For details about Trigger Port, Open Port, Trigger Protocol, and Open Protocol, contact your service provider. Should I establish LAN port forwarding for VoIP port 5060 (or other) and if so what 'trigger' details etc? Should I establish LAN port forwarding for VoIP port 5060 Check what the registration string for TC is, It may not be using 5060 thoughts if you can turn off NAT or turn it into a bridge. Isn't the wingle plugged into a rooter? And the wingle gives the rooter usb WAN port an IP which is probably different to the rooter network? So if you forward 5060 on the wingle too your ata it must be the same network, I guess.

I'm getting a few of these soon and would rather turn off all the router features when using a Openwrt device as the router. Again though, your ata should give an error log with the registration process failing. I'm just muddling muddle away.:) I'm getting a few of these soon and would rather turn off all the router features when using a Openwrt device as the router. Still its only plugging 2 routers together wan-lan.

Not recommended but all Eth devices are accessed with this problem.. Be it USB or otherwise.

A client in the LAN uses TCP to access the MSN game server through port 47624. When the game starts, the game server uses TCP and port 2400 to set up a connection to the client that tries to access the server. In this case, you must configure dynamic port forwarding, because the game conflicts with the following default firewall rules: The firewall blocks external data input. The game server can send a connection request to the external IP address of the Telstra 4G USB+WIFI Plus but cannot send the request to the LAN client that tries to access the game server, because the IP addresses of clients are not open to external devices. To solve this problem, you must define a set of port forwarding rules. When the client in the LAN sends data to TCP port 47624, the rules allow data input from TCP port 2400. Then data from the game server can be received from and transmitted to the LAN client that sends data to TCP port 47624.

Sorry to waste your time but you were right all along. Looks like the wingles firewall may be in need of a port rule just for voip. Should I establish LAN port forwarding for VoIP port 5060 (or other) and if so what 'trigger' details etc?

Reading the above. Your gona have to play..

Edit::::::::: the biggest issue with double nat or 2 routers plugged together is accessing devices/computers on the primary router not accessing the internet. Error You are quoting significantly more words than you have written. Consider whether you need to quote at all -- unless you are quoting to respond to a specific statement, it's usually easier to just mention who you're responding to. Otherwise, trim the quoted passages down as much as you can.

An idle question, but is there any way to 'eject' or power down these wingles without actually physically removing them from your computer? I'm thinking along of the lines of what you can do with USB drives where, you know, you can right click >eject in the taskbar and they will be disconnected despite still being plugged in. Reason being I'm using mine as a backup internet connection, and I'd prefer not to have to keep physically plugging it in and out, plus it's wear and tear I'd rather avoid in the long run. Reason being I'm using mine as a backup internet connection, and I'd prefer not to have to keep physically plugging it in and out, plus it's wear and tear I'd rather avoid in the long run. Why not power it via a USB power pack and connect via WIFI.

A 5v @ 1A plug pack will do the job. A short USB to USB cable with ferrite bead is best to make the connection. Why 'pollute' your computer with software that's not really needed. All the features of the Wingle are available via a WIFi connection. I used a 10m usb extension cord and works perfect for my usb camera at work no signal loss.

Have a read here: Just like LAN cable USB cable has signal/ length limitations. Just as importantly once you start powering devices over USB the IR losses of the cable comes into question ie If you require 5V @ 1A to power your device, is the cable capable of providing that amount of power without loss? Much comes down to the quality of the cable, but really all you can do is suck it and see.:) Anything over 5m of USB cable. And you're relying on a 'wing and a prayer'.;) Best to keep it short (1m or less). Your wingle wuns the world.:) It's certainly improved the WAF.

We run VoIP only (only use the landline for ADSL), so having it work always is a good thing. Now just gotta decide whether to use a Telstra or Optus SIM for the backup dongle (it's currently running a Voda sim I got for free with 3GB/30 days). I love that this wingle doesn't need any APN config, etc, just put in any SIM and it's ready to go. I'm taking my other one (yes I own two already) overseas next week so will see how it goes on other 700MHz networks. The auto disconnect/reconnect seems to work well too. Keeps the power consumption down while it's in standby.

My previous Telstra 4G unit (different model) used to overheat badly, I like they these run much cooler in comparison. Channel 6 (orange) – Optus E8372 Wingle at the same location. Are you sure that is not channel 7? I am using the unlocked optus version, and discovered I could only get SIP to work when I disabled the SIP ALG. It has been reported that even on some ADSL2 modems, the SIP ALG fails to operate as intended.

With a Telstra 3g modem voip is working. Also tried a Telstra 4g modem and got same failure. Telstra has modified the firmware in some of their later mobile broadband modems to prevent SIP voip operation. An example of the is the Telstra MF910. It operates with Skype but not MNF/ Telecube/PennyTel etc. Its predecessor, the MF91 operated with all of these voip suppliers without problems. Ship Simulator Extremes 2012 Free Download Full Version there.

Skype uses a proprietary version of the IAX2 protocol & so operates as intended on these later Telstra modems. One problem with voip (mynetfone & telecube) Be aware that the Telecube thread has discussed that Telecube's implementation of IAX appears to be non-standard (along with their implementation of their 'iLBC' codec). For best results when using Telecube, try to avoid using IAX &/or iLBC.

This then just leaves you SIP which runs into problems with many of the later versions of Telstra firmware. You could try the Australian provider clickncallnow.com using IAX along with the GSM or iLBC codec on the free Zoiper softphone. Another Australian provider Faktortel also use the IAX protocol. Are you sure that is not channel 7?

Channel 7 it is.:) That is not so clever (it was on auto), but then you can fix the WIFI channel. Telstra has modified the firmware in some of their later mobile broadband modems to prevent SIP voip operation. An example of the is the Telstra MF910. It operates with Skype but not MNF/ Telecube/PennyTel etc. Its predecessor, the MF91 operated with all of these voip suppliers without problems.

This does appear to be true and yes, there was much VoIP 'huffing and puffing' with the Telstra ZTE MF910 to no avail. This (MF91) is a 'hotspot' modem whereas I need a 4G usb modem Yes, I only gave this to you an example of Telstra firmware that allowed SIP traffic... And the MF91 was released 3 or 4 years ago. I believe its successor (the MF910) was one of the first modems where Telstra locked down SIP traffic. The optus E8372 has the same issue with a Telstra sim in it.

The Optus E8372 has Optus firmware in it & this does allow SIP traffic, so your voip should work fine (even with a Telstra SIM). Remember this modem does not support 3G 850MHz & so it would not be your best choice if you travel to 3G only coverage areas. The Optus E8372 is unlocked which is nice. The Telstra E8372 is locked. I was going out to buy a billion 4G router I would suggest perhaps checking the compatibility of different routers with the Optus version of the E8372 modem (many routers now have a USB port on them to connect to a USB modem). This is a 'hotspot' modem whereas I need a 4G usb modem to plug into a router as Ethernet ports are necessary.

Like most of these hotspot modems you can connect through USB instead of wifi. It's probably not ideal to have the battery connected all the time but it is possible. Any Telstra 4G usb modems that work?

The classic Sierra / Netgear 320U comes to mind, provided you don't need band 28. The optus E8372 has the same issue with a Telstra sim in it. I've had VoIP working on a Billion 7800 via a ROOter and Optus 8372 with a Telstra sim.

There may be some cases where it doesn't work but it's not completely blocked. Where do I find this In the Optus panel under Settings ->Security, or here: Can you please explain this. The modem I was going out to buy is a billion BP7800NXL supporting 3G/4G. Mine is the 7800VDPX, which also supports a USB modem, but for greater flexibility (multiple-WAN, OpenVPN etc) I'm connecting its WAN port to another router (WD MyNet N750) running the openwrt-based ROOter firmware discussed with two USB modems permanently connected. (If you're up for some tinkering I'd highly recommend it!). WF did you get your voip working through rooter?

If he has he's failed to report back to me as he said he would;) It appears the Telstra version needs flashing to a generic Huawei firmware. DC Unlocker have one but as they couln't confirm which frequencies the alternative firmware facilitated I held back from doing it. What makes things more complicated is to unlock the this modem you need to reflash it's firmware, but if you lose 850Mhz in order to use voip with a telstra sim, in my case Id be losing as much as I'd gain – I have a Voda data sim as well.

If anyone knows of an available alternative firmware with all the Telstra frequencies (plus 900Mhz 3G even better) please advise where it can be found. WF did you get your voip working through rooter? I only tried with the Telstra modem and as Ozbrit and Spudling and Derek G report (I've probably missed some), it appears that Telstra have crow barred SIP capability out of this modem.:( Damn you Telstra! So whilst Skype works fine, VoIP won't.

Skype can be a cost effective VoIP alternative and using a gives it some sort of very bare functionality. It's a simply horrid handset with tiny buttons and non intuitive display. Although I did not test it, it appears that the Optus modem is fine for VoIP with the SIP-ALG function disabled. With no mobile reception the farm and only Telstra at the solar relay site, it is much too difficult to do meaningful testing here.:) If anyone knows of an available alternative firmware with all the Telstra frequencies (plus 900Mhz 3G even better) please advise where it can be found. Now that would be sweet.:). It appears the Telstra version needs flashing to a generic Huawei firmware. Yes, I would agree with this.

If you have 4G. Grab a optus unit (they are unlocked), and use it with your Telstra SIM. Yes, this is the best option as SIP is not locked down in the Optus version & you don't need to pay for an unlock code. If users are mainly after voip for 10c landline calls, then consider using the IAX protocol instead of SIP. I believe this would work on the E8372 as I managed to get IAX to work on a Telstra MF910 modem (which also locked down SIP traffic). Offer 10c landline calls & I have been using them quite successfully over Telstra 4G on my new bluetick Telstra Buzz (Android ZTE Blade Q) mobile phone (cost less than $100).

They support the GSM codec (so you are not forced to use G711 which uses a lot more data). You can then use the free Zoiper softphone. The new beta version of Zoiper even operated with my bluetooth headset just fine. Optus version supports + telstra sim a good combo for country? As Spudling says. Telstra 3G on 850Mhz is what you'll need the bush and regional towns.

Relying on 3G 2100Mhz and a Telstra SIM will provide a very poor performance. Of course where Telstra has rolled out 700Mhz you'll be fine, but it's very limited atm.

Possibly another 12 – 14 months or more before its more the norm outback. On the other hand, the Optus 700Mhz 4G roll-out, although more sparse, is providing better coverage in the bush. If Optus's notoriously optimistic maps are to be believed: And in 6 months time. WF why not get a telstra 850mhz repeater for your farm? A TMSA works only if the window unit is in a reception area. This means it would need to be physically located at the solar relay site. I would then need to modify the 5Ghz internal antenna connections in both boxes adding higher gain external 5Ghz antennas and create an illegal 5Ghz link between the WU and home.

More solar more batteries and a lot of cost. All of this rootin' about just to make a mobile phone ring within part of the home environment.:( That's one thing I can happily do without.:). Wan settings are also as standard eg telstra.internet and dial number *99#. Pretty sure those will be ignored in this case – the wingle itself will handle the connection. Mine (an Optus model using a Telstra sim) appears as eth1 in ROOter and the only information in network status is the 'comm port' 192.168.8.1. Does it matter that both wingle and rooter are DHCP enabled? Leave them both enabled unless you're willing to set all IP addresses manually.

In your ROOter is WANx (whatever WAN you have for the wingle) set as a DHCP-client? Default Gateway was causing some errors when left blank (by default). When I hard coded it to the router's IP address all fixed. Sunday here so I thought I might come back and see if I could help you on this one. Seems you fixed it. Yes when connecting a slave device to a master device (when using static ip) always set the default gateway to the Master's IP.

Its hard when you are on the other side with no clue what has been left out. This is why i always prefer screen grabs of settings. Given the following wingle frequencies: Telstra 4G 700/1800/2100/2600 3G 850/2100 Optus 3G Network: 900/2100MHz 4G Network: 700/1800/2300/2600MHz What MIMO antenna(s) have people been using for 3G/4G/4GX/LTE frequencies with these wingles, please?

Where did you buy them, what gain do they claim, how do they perform, what frequencies do they work on, and for what cost? I am not expecting one antenna to cover all bands, but don't want to buy a dud.

I understand both Optus and Telstra variants to use TS9 connectors and that LMR400 coax may be the way to connect between the modem and the antenna(s), once the coax connection issues can be resolved. What have people been using successfully and over what lengths? What connectors did you use? Maybe using WiFi and mounting the wingle directly to the antenna(s) with a solar power source is the cheaper way to go. Was the overall effort in setting up an external antenna system worthwhile? I am not expecting one antenna to cover all bands You can purchase good log periodic antennas that cover all bands for 700Mhz up. Often it is best to target the frequency bands available in your area and with your supplier.

But don't want to buy a dud. Good thinking. One can waste a lot of time and money I understand both Optus and Telstra variants to use TS9 connectors Yup. TS9 pigtails is what you need. And that LMR400 coax may be the way to connect between the modem and the antenna(s) LMR400 has good loss characteristics at a reasonable price. As frequencies rise the coaxial cable loss increases.

Was the overall effort in setting up an external antenna system worthwhile? That will depend on your location.

For some there is zero reception until external antennas are aplied. For others, speeds are doubled or quadrupled etc. Perhaps one of the key things is greater reliability. Note: Antennas work best in rural areas where distance and direction is involved, not so in urban environments. The yagi thread is a good place to discuss many of these dilemmas.

Sunday here so I thought I might come back and see if I could help you on this one. Seems you fixed it. Whirlpool delivers again, thanks all. But I will also say that the ac68u's display for secondary wan in network map is a little confusing.

The default visual is a 'disconnected' with a red cross which only changes to 'connected' when primary is completely down. Ie There is no indication that secondary is setup correctly. They need an 'inactive' or 'enabled' to distinguish from 'connected'. Ahhh yes, should have worded that better. MIMO is the antenna setup.

I am looking at how to check to see if I am getting carrier aggregation while using the MIMO antenna setup. This is a guess, please correct me if i am wrong: Optus on 700mhz should have a total of 10M bandwidth.

Optus on 1800Mhz should have a total of 10M bandwidth. On my local Optus base station I could see a total of 20M bandwidth, if everything is working correctly from my end? I am currently seeing a bandwidth of 15M on my modem, so maybe I need to work a bit harder on antenna alignment etc to bring in the full 20M? If I am seeing anything 'over' 10M bandwidth on my modem I should assume I am getting some carrier aggregation? I am looking at how to check to see if I am getting carrier aggregation while using the MIMO antenna setup. I haven't been able to find any hint that the E8372h supports carrier aggregation. Sure, it's a cat 4 device (150 Mbps theoretical download).

But as I understand it, that's achieved using MIMO. Optus on 700mhz should have a total of 10M bandwidth. Optus on 1800Mhz should have a total of 10M bandwidth That very much depends on the site. As I drive around the countryside with a logger recording cell info, I'm seeing individual LTE cell bandwidths of 5, 10, 15 and 20 MHz on different carriers and in different regions. Thanks guys sounds good. I'm guessing that this modem basically creates a USB Ethernet adapter which the router brings up and starts a DHCP client on.

So in effect you end up with at least double NAT (if the modem has a public WAN IP) or in most cases in AU triple NAT. I suppose if you've already got double NAT then adding another layer isn't going to cause too much grief (other than the issues with VoIP). I still think it is worth a try. The only dilema left is to buy the Optus or Telstra one.

When I connect my E8372h-608 wingle to my Raspberry Pi or to my TP-Link MR3020 rooter, it connects as a USB IP interface. When connected to my Windows 7 PC it shows up as 2 USB disks. Presumably one is the micro SD card in the wingle and the other is the wingle itself.

I have not been able to get the wingle to appear as an RNDIS USB device in Windows 7. Has anybody been able to get the 608 wingle to talk via RNDIS and IP to Windows, please? I think I have the correct drivers set up in Windows for RNDIS support. I cannot see the wingle under Network adapters in the Windows Device Manger. One of the USB disks seen in Windows 7 has a bit of what seems like Windows and MAC software on it. What is it for? Is this the software that runs on the wingle?

The wingle appeas as follows: CD Drive (E:) Telstra USB+WIF Removable Disk (F:) There is an exe (mbbServiceSetup.exe) and data.bin file in the E: MobileBrServ directory. I think mbb is probably Telstra's mobile broadband service abbreviation.

CD Drive (E:) Telstra USB+WIF This is standard for a modeswitch device. It appears first as a CD drive containing the software / drivers required to connect to the modem. Once that's installed on your (Windows) system it switches the device to modem mode. Linux generally has the drivers and modeswitch pre-installed in the kernel so it skips the software installation process and goes straight to a working device. Has anybody been able to get the 608 wingle to talk via RNDIS and IP to Windows, please? Not the 608 but the Optus version of the 8372, yes.

I just let it install as usual. I guess if you want to use your pre-installed drivers and avoid installing the standard software you'll need to find another way to do the modeswitch. Hey WF did you end up solving your issue? As I don't live in a mobile coverage area, I don't get to do much testing.:( Just set up a Telstra version connected to an OpenWRT router and VoIP works perfectly. Any special config in the wingle or as is outa the box? From memory I used a 703n ROOter (and a factory firmware TP-Link MR3020), plus a Cisco SPA 122 ATA (which worked fine on the local router/ADSL link).

The Cisco wouldn't register on the network. Same set-up was OK with the Optus version wingle. Any special config in the wingle or as is outa the box? • I switched off SIP ALG and uPNP but I didn't test with them switched on (I usually switch off those things first up on any new networking device).

• My OpenWRT LAN subnet is in a different range to the wingle default (again I never use the default ranges as I run site-site VPNs which get screwed up if more than one network is the same subnet). From memory I used a 703n ROOter (and a factory firmware TP-Link MR3020), plus a Cisco SPA 122 ATA (which worked fine on the local router/ADSL link). The Cisco wouldn't register on the network. Hmmm interesting. Might be worth trying how I did it if you're keen. This is what I did (in a nutshell).

Great info here but I need a little expert advice. I am a grey nomad wanting to pull a usable Telstra signal in fringe areas.

I can't find specs to compare the Telstra MBB Wi-Fi devices. Which has the strongest reception?

I am attracted to the Telstra Buzz 4GX because the phone would be useful, but has anyone here actually tested one and compared it to the MBB wingles? Is there much difference in range? I travel all over and spend a lot of time in CBD and urban areas as well as in the bush so 4GX is essential.

Is the Optus wingle more useful than the Telstra equivalent? Thanks in advance! I am attracted to the Telstra Buzz 4GX. But has anyone here actually tested one and compared it to the MBB wingles? The Telstra Buzz has received Telstra's 'Bluetick' meaning that it is recommended for rural handheld use.

It is therefore unlikely that you will find another phone that is 'better' than the Buzz for rural use. The Buzz however does not have an external antenna socket.

If you visit remote areas with poor mobile coverage, then logically you would pull in a better signal if you have a device that has an external antenna connected to it. Telstra do sell some phones with the above mentioned socket, so you really need to decide whether you want to use a phone as your data connection or a dedicated MBB modem. Is the Optus wingle more useful than the Telstra equivalent? The Optus unit does not support 3G 850MHz. Logically therefore, you would be better off purchasing the Telstra version if you are going to be using Telstra 3G data in country areas.

Some users have reported problems using voip with the Telstra version & the Telstra version is locked to their own network. The Optus unit is not locked. You infer that that the Buzz and the Wingle might give similar performance without an antenna.

Has anyone actually compared them to confirm? My experience is that a Telstra 'Blue Tick' phone will absolutely thrash a modem for finding signal in marginal areas (no external antennas in use). My old 'Blue Tick' Samsung A411 beats my Sierra Wireless 320U USB modem by a long shot when it comes to finding signal – maybe by 10 km when approaching an area with coverage. I seriously doubt that the E8372h is better than the 320U in this respect.

I could easily test my E8372h against the phone next time I'm out in the back blocks. But that won't be for a while. The testing against the 320U has been repeated a great many times.

Some users have reported problems using voip with the Telstra version & the Telstra version is locked to their own network. Yes I was one, but miraculously when they switched on 1800 Mhz to complement 700Mhz around here whatever was blocking VOIP wasn't any more and now both Telecube and PennyTel register fine and good voice quality via my cheapie Huawei Y550 phone + Zoiper app.

Also my experience with the e8372h on 3G 850Mhz is it beats the 320u hands down. It's hard to make a 4G comparison owing to potential aggregation with the e8372h and no 700 on the 320u. My old 'Blue Tick' Samsung A411 beats my Sierra Wireless 320U USB modem by a long shot when it comes to finding signal – maybe by 10 km when approaching an area with coverage.

One assumes that Blue tick phones optimise: 1. The size and gain of the internal antenna 2. It's location in the handset Once you add a suitable external antenna to either device, I suspect that there is little variation between most modern devices?

The old 320U was always accused of running hot. My solar transponder 320U mounted out in the blazing sun, runs as cool as a cucumber courtesy of it's external antenna. The 320U reports the exact same signal levels as the blue tick ZTE T90; when attached to an external antenna.;). Optus E8372 which when plugged into a Windows PC provides access to the internet in under 30 seconds You have the E8372 talking with Windows in this connection.

If I plug it into an operating Dovado PRO it takes in excess of two and a half minute You have the E8372 talking with Linux (Dovado) in this connection. You could see if there has been a firmware update for the Dovado & for the E8372 (make sure it is still the Optus firmware to ensure it continues to support the current Optus frequencies). If the above does not help, then you are probably just stuck with the long winded handshaking with the Dovado. You could contact the Dovado importer (they are active in WP) to see if they look into this for you. Once you add a suitable external antenna to either device, I suspect that there is little variation between most modern devices? While I find that they might show similar signal strength, all the blue tick smart phones I have had will still transfer data at a much lower signal strength the modems. Even at -113db the phone will usually show data connected.

Text based emails come through as long as there is a connection. All of the modems I have had (Aircard 753s, 760s, E8372, Telstra home gateway) except the original blue Maxxon simply refuse to connect and actually work on marginal signals, even when connected to the same external antenna as the phone. Thanks for your reply jhend. I believe RSRP is in the order of -105dBM – -108dBm with no external antenna.

So, based on what you've said, this would most likely explain the behaviour I'm seeing. I'm since built WF's yagi antenna and RSRP is now in the order of -93dBm – -96dBm, which I'm quite happy about. So, with the lower dBm. I'm less likely to see the problem, if at all, correct? Tests run at 6:30 am this morning, without yagi, I was getting average of 38 Mbps download, and 64.6 Mbps with yagi, a 69% increase.

This is the best improvement I've seen with yagi, so very pleased with it. I'm since built WF's yagi antenna and RSRP is now in the order of -93dBm – -96dBm, which I'm quite happy about. So, with the lower dBm. Strictly speaking -93 is a bigger number than -105 (just like 1 is bigger that -1). That's why -105 dBm is a lower signal strength than -93 dBm. Tests run at 6:30 am this morning, without yagi, I was getting average of 38 Mbps download, and 64.6 Mbps with yagi, a 69% increase. This is the best improvement I've seen with yagi, so very pleased with it.

It's good to hear about your experience with improving the signal because -105 isn't too shabby at all for RSRP. Built WF's yagi antenna Are you using a single yagi? If so, you should just about double your speed again by using a second yagi plugged into the secondary antenna port of the modem. Two yagis need to be in MIMO configuration for best 4G performance. This means one at 45° from the vertical and one at 135°. Like the photos on this page. Re, the -93 versus -105, bad choice of terminology on my part.

When I said lower, l meant better. Good to know about using a second yagi. Yes, at this stage, I'm only using a single yagi. So, at some stage, I'll build a second one. They're not hard to build but I find it difficult to build one where the aluminium rods are both at 90% to the central rod and all in the same plane. That's the challenge I find.

The first one I built, the 5 element part of the black riser rod, was as crooked as a dog's hind leg. But, amazingly, it still worked. I was really surprised and it seems to work about as well as my second attempt which is much better. However, I'm only about 1.8 kilometres [Dural] from the tower and seem to have more or less line of sight to it. Verified this by using Google Earth Pro. Thanks once again for your reply and suggestion to add a second yagi.

Hey WF did you end up solving your issue? And Nick is talking VoIP via a Telstra and an Optus Ea372 with Optus and Testra SIMS.

As I don't live in a mobile coverage area, I don't get to do much testing.:( But I do get to holiday and play every now and again. And it is in an Optus/ Teltra multi 4G band area:) So the short story. It was determined in the beginning, that the Telstra E8372 modem and SIM didn't play VoIP. On the other hand the Optus SIM and E8372 modem originally VoIP'd successfully. But now it doesn't. See However, at some time Telstra appears to have had a change of heart. And now it does.

So work that lot out?:cry: Note: One must disable SIP-ALG in either modem. With SIP-ALG enabled the connecting SIP VoIP device will not register on the VoIP network. And that is exactly what I have just re-discovered with a bog standard OpenWRT ROOter (several), an Optus and Telstra E8372, both with SIP-ALG disabled, a Cisco ATA and an analogue handset. The Optus Modem and SIM was all over the place. It registered and I could make calls after a fashion.

• VoIP extension to mobile was fine with speach both ways. • VoIP extension to VoIP extension gave ring tone but one way voice. • Voip extension to landline gave no ring tone heard and possible one way voice It appears the Optus SIM does not play well. At this time.:( The Telstra modem and SIM. Just worked as it should. Note: I didn't test, but I understand the Telstra SIM also works fine for VoIP when used in an Optus (naturally unlocked) modem. All of which suits me just fine.

I need a Telstra 4G VoIP replacement on farm for my ageing (but still perfect), 320U (1800Mhz only) and ROOter, in anticipation of 700Mhz 4G arriving some time this year (fingers crossed). Note: I had left the E8372h connected to a ROOter at the holiday house. It stayed happily connected uninterrupted for 3 weeks. That's plenty stable.

I've gotten a little stumped trying to open ports on the 4GX wingle and I'm wondering if anyone knows what I'm missing here. The issue is I'm trying to open ports across a range, but the ui doesn't seem to be set up to allow me to do that. I can open single ports just fine as you can see, but I've no idea how to open something like 5 as a single entry (if that is even possible). There seems to be a limit of 16 entries maximum, so even if I wanted to be a masochist and key in each port as a single entry, I can't fit everything I need in. The instructions in the 'Open Port' section of the ui seem to suggest that opening a range of ports is possible – but I'm not seeing how as normally there'd be double the amount of boxes for you to specify the start and end of the range. I'm wondering if they're both supposed to fit into a single box. You can fit '5' in a single box, but it's not accepted as a valid entry, so perhaps there's some appropriate syntax I'm unaware of?

I don't really get what the 'Use semicolons (;) to delimit ports' statement mea.